{"id":1512,"date":"2023-08-19T13:20:25","date_gmt":"2023-08-19T11:20:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.mcgill.org.za\/stuff\/?p=1512"},"modified":"2023-08-19T17:12:53","modified_gmt":"2023-08-19T15:12:53","slug":"jeremiah-52-vs-2-kings-25-compared","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.mcgill.org.za\/stuff\/archives\/1512","title":{"rendered":"Jeremiah 52 vs 2 Kings 25 compared"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The end of Jeremiah (52:1-34) and the end of 2 Kings (2 Kings 24:18-25:30) are almost word-for-word identical.  Here is a comparison done with <code>wdiff<\/code>.  You can see that one of the very first differences is the question about the comma after Hamutal.  This is not known as the <em>comma jeremiahian<\/em>, but it should be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The part that is <s>crossed out is Jeremiah 52<\/s>.  <strong>The text in bold is 2 Kings 25<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Zedekiah was <del>one and<\/del> twenty <b>and one<\/b> years old when he began to reign, and he reigned eleven years in Jerusalem. And his mother&#8217;s name was <del>Hamutal<\/del> <b>Hamutal,<\/b> the daughter of Jeremiah of Libnah.\n And he did that which was evil in the <del>eyes<\/del> <b>sight<\/b> of the LORD, according to all that Jehoiakim had done.\n For through the anger of the LORD it came to pass in Jerusalem and Judah, <del>till<\/del> <b>until<\/b> he had cast them out from his presence, that Zedekiah rebelled against the king of Babylon.\nAnd it came to pass in the ninth year of his reign, in the tenth month, in the tenth day of the month, that <del>Nebuchadrezzar<\/del> <b>Nebuchadnezzar<\/b> king of Babylon came, <del>he<\/del> <b>he,<\/b> and all his <del>army,<\/del> <b>host,<\/b> against Jerusalem, and pitched against <del>it,<\/del> <b>it;<\/b> and <b>they<\/b> built forts against it round about.\n<del>So<\/del>\n<b>And<\/b> the city was besieged unto the eleventh year of king Zedekiah.\nAnd <del>in the fourth month, in<\/del> <b>on<\/b> the ninth day of the <del>month,<\/del> <b>fourth month<\/b> the famine <del>was sore<\/del> <b>prevailed<\/b> in the city, <del>so that<\/del> <b>and<\/b> there was no bread for the people of the land.\n<del>Then<\/del>\n<b>And<\/b> the city was broken up, and all the men of war <del>fled, and went forth out of the city<\/del> <b>fled<\/b> by night by the way of the gate between <del>the<\/del> two walls, which <del>was<\/del> <b>is<\/b> by the king&#8217;s <del>garden;<\/del> <b>garden:<\/b> (now the <del>Chaldeans<\/del> <b>Chaldees<\/b> were <del>by<\/del> <b>against<\/b> the city round about:) and <del>they<\/del> <b>the king<\/b> went <del>by<\/del> the way <del>of<\/del> <b>toward<\/b> the plain.\n<del>But<\/del>\n<b>And<\/b> the army of the <del>Chaldeans<\/del> <b>Chaldees<\/b> pursued after the king, and overtook <del>Zedekiah<\/del> <b>him<\/b> in the plains of <del>Jericho;<\/del> <b>Jericho:<\/b> and all his army <del>was<\/del> <b>were<\/b> scattered from him.\n<del>Then<\/del>\n<b>So<\/b> they took the king, and <del>carried<\/del> <b>brought<\/b> him up <del>unto<\/del> <b>to<\/b> the king of Babylon to <del>Riblah in the land of Hamath; where he<\/del> <b>Riblah; and they<\/b> gave judgment upon him.\nAnd <del>the king of Babylon<\/del> <b>they<\/b> slew the sons of Zedekiah before his <del>eyes: he slew also all the princes of Judah in Riblah.\n Then he<\/del> <b>eyes, and<\/b> put out the eyes of <del>Zedekiah;<\/del> <b>Zedekiah,<\/b> and <del>the king of Babylon<\/del> bound him <del>in chains,<\/del> <b>with fetters of brass,<\/b> and carried him to <del>Babylon, and put him in prison till the day of his death.\n Now<\/del> <b>Babylon.\nAnd<\/b> in the fifth month, <del>in<\/del> <b>on<\/b> the <del>tenth<\/del> <b>seventh<\/b> day of the month, which <del>was<\/del> <b>is<\/b> the nineteenth year of <del>Nebuchadrezzar<\/del> <b>king Nebuchadnezzar<\/b> king of Babylon, came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, <del>which served<\/del> <b>a servant of<\/b> the king of Babylon, <del>into Jerusalem,<\/del> <b>unto Jerusalem:<\/b>\nAnd <del>burned<\/del> <b>he burnt<\/b> the house of the LORD, and the king&#8217;s <del>house;<\/del> <b>house,<\/b> and all the houses of Jerusalem, and <del>all the houses of the<\/del> <b>every<\/b> great <del>men, burned<\/del> <b>man&#8217;s house burnt<\/b> he with <del>fire:<\/del> <b>fire.<\/b>\n And all the army of the <del>Chaldeans,<\/del> <b>Chaldees,<\/b> that were with the captain of the guard, brake down <del>all<\/del> the walls of Jerusalem round about.\n <del>Then Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard carried away captive certain of the poor of the people, and<\/del>\n <b>Now<\/b> the <del>residue<\/del> <b>rest<\/b> of the people that <del>remained<\/del> <b>were left<\/b> in the city, and <del>those that fell away,<\/del> <b>the fugitives<\/b> that fell <b>away<\/b> to the king of Babylon, <del>and<\/del> <b>with<\/b> the <del>rest<\/del> <b>remnant<\/b> of the <del>multitude.\n But<\/del> <b>multitude, did<\/b> Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard <b>carry away.\n But the captain of the guard<\/b> left <del>certain<\/del> of the poor of the land <del>for<\/del> <b>to be<\/b> vinedressers and <del>for<\/del> husbandmen.\n <del>Also<\/del>\n <b>And<\/b> the pillars of brass that were in the house of the LORD, and the bases, and the brasen sea that was in the house of the LORD, <b>did<\/b> the <del>Chaldeans brake,<\/del> <b>Chaldees break in pieces,<\/b> and carried <del>all<\/del> the brass of them to Babylon.\n <del>The caldrons also,<\/del>\n <b>And the pots,<\/b> and the shovels, and the snuffers, and the <del>bowls, and the<\/del> spoons, and all the vessels of brass wherewith they ministered, took they away.\n And the <del>basons, and the<\/del> firepans, and the bowls, and <del>the caldrons, and the candlesticks, and the spoons, and the cups; that which was<\/del> <b>such things as were<\/b> of <del>gold<\/del> <b>gold,<\/b> in gold, and <del>that which was<\/del> of <del>silver<\/del> <b>silver,<\/b> in silver, <del>took<\/del> the captain of the guard <b>took<\/b> away.\n The two pillars, one sea, and <del>twelve brasen bulls that were under<\/del> the <del>bases,<\/del> <b>bases<\/b> which <del>king<\/del> Solomon had made <del>in<\/del> <b>for<\/b> the house of the <del>LORD:<\/del> <b>LORD;<\/b> the brass of all these vessels was without weight.\n <del>And concerning the pillars, the<\/del>\n <b>The<\/b> height of <b>the<\/b> one pillar was eighteen <del>cubits; and a fillet of twelve cubits did compass it;<\/del> <b>cubits,<\/b> and the <del>thickness thereof was four fingers: it was hollow.\n And a<\/del> chapiter <del>of brass was<\/del> upon <del>it;<\/del> <b>it was brass:<\/b> and the height of <del>one<\/del> <b>the<\/b> chapiter <del>was five cubits, with network<\/del> <b>three cubits; and the wreathen work,<\/b> and pomegranates upon the <del>chapiters<\/del> <b>chapiter<\/b> round about, all of <del>brass. The second pillar also<\/del> <b>brass:<\/b> and <del>the pomegranates were<\/del> like unto <del>these.\n And there were ninety and six pomegranates on a side; and all the pomegranates upon<\/del> <b>these had<\/b> the <del>network were an hundred round about.<\/del> <b>second pillar with wreathen work.<\/b>\n And the captain of the guard took Seraiah the chief priest, and Zephaniah the second priest, and the three keepers of the door:\n <del>He took also<\/del>\n <b>And<\/b> out of the city <b>he took<\/b> an <del>eunuch, which had the charge of<\/del> <b>officer that was set over<\/b> the men of <del>war;<\/del> <b>war,<\/b> and <del>seven<\/del> <b>five<\/b> men of them that were <del>near<\/del> <b>in<\/b> the king&#8217;s <del>person,<\/del> <b>presence,<\/b> which were found in the <del>city;<\/del> <b>city,<\/b> and the principal scribe of the host, <del>who<\/del> <b>which<\/b> mustered the people of the <del>land;<\/del> <b>land,<\/b> and threescore men of the people of the <del>land,<\/del> <b>land<\/b> that were found in the <del>midst of the city.\n So<\/del> <b>city:\n And<\/b> Nebuzaradan <del>the<\/del> captain of the guard took <del>them,<\/del> <b>these,<\/b> and brought them to the king of Babylon to <del>Riblah.<\/del> <b>Riblah:<\/b>\n And the king of Babylon smote them, and <del>put<\/del> <b>slew<\/b> them <del>to death in<\/del> <b>at<\/b> Riblah in the land of Hamath. <del>Thus<\/del> <b>So<\/b> Judah was carried away <del>captive<\/del> out of <del>his own<\/del> <b>their<\/b> land.\n <del>This is<\/del>\n <b>And as for<\/b> the people <del>whom Nebuchadrezzar carried away captive:<\/del> <b>that remained<\/b> in the <del>seventh year three thousand Jews<\/del> <b>land of Judah, whom Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon had left, even over them he made Gedaliah the son of Ahikam, the son of Shaphan, ruler.\n And when all the captains of the armies, they<\/b> and <del>three<\/del> <b>their men, heard that the king of Babylon had made Gedaliah governor, there came to Gedaliah to Mizpah, even Ishmael the son of Nethaniah,<\/b> and <del>twenty:\n In<\/del> <b>Johanan<\/b> the <del>eighteenth year<\/del> <b>son<\/b> of <del>Nebuchadrezzar he carried away captive from Jerusalem eight hundred thirty<\/del> <b>Careah,<\/b> and <del>two persons:\n In<\/del> <b>Seraiah<\/b> the <del>three<\/del> <b>son of Tanhumeth the Netophathite,<\/b> and <del>twentieth year<\/del> <b>Jaazaniah the son<\/b> of <del>Nebuchadrezzar Nebuzaradan<\/del> <b>a Maachathite, they and their men.\n And Gedaliah sware to them, and to their men, and said unto them, Fear not to be<\/b> the <del>captain<\/del> <b>servants<\/b> of the <del>guard carried away captive<\/del> <b>Chaldees: dwell in the land, and serve the king of Babylon; and it shall be well with you.\n But it came to pass in the seventh month, that Ishmael the son<\/b> of <b>Nethaniah, the son of Elishama, of the seed royal, came, and ten men with him, and smote Gedaliah, that he died, and<\/b> the Jews <del>seven hundred forty<\/del> and <del>five persons: all<\/del> the <del>persons<\/del> <b>Chaldees that<\/b> were <del>four thousand<\/del> <b>with him at Mizpah.\n And all the people, both small<\/b> and <del>six hundred.<\/del> <b>great, and the captains of the armies, arose, and came to Egypt: for they were afraid of the Chaldees.<\/b>\n And it came to pass in the seven and thirtieth year of the captivity of Jehoiachin king of Judah, in the twelfth month, <del>in<\/del> <b>on<\/b> the <del>five<\/del> <b>seven<\/b> and twentieth day of the month, that Evilmerodach king of Babylon in the <del>first<\/del> year <del>of his<\/del> <b>that he began to<\/b> reign <del>lifted<\/del> <b>did lift<\/b> up the head of Jehoiachin king of <del>Judah, and brought him forth<\/del> <b>Judah<\/b> out of <del>prison,<\/del> <b>prison;<\/b>\n And <b>he<\/b> spake kindly <del>unto<\/del> <b>to<\/b> him, and set his throne above the throne of the kings that were with him in <del>Babylon,<\/del> <b>Babylon;<\/b>\n And changed his prison garments: and he did <del>continually<\/del> eat bread <b>continually<\/b> before him all the days of his life.\n And <del>for<\/del> his <del>diet, there<\/del> <b>allowance<\/b> was a continual <del>diet<\/del> <b>allowance<\/b> given him of the <del>king of Babylon, every day<\/del> <b>king,<\/b> a <del>portion until the day of his death,<\/del> <b>daily rate for every day,<\/b> all the days of his life.\n\n\n\n\n<p>There are a few implications about this:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>It can take a few days to get out of prison. 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